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Hey I missed Friday's nights game because of a sick kid. How did Quakenbush look? Should we have hung on to him?
He did well enough to score a goal but really, he's a 2nd or 3rd line guy on a team that might be slightly better than the T-birds this season, so no, it wouldn't have been worth it to hold on to him.
We got Colin Haas for Quakenbush... Where is Haas now?Quake wasn't the best, but it's not like we have much else
I have always wondered why Quakenbush didn't flourish. He had the size and from what I heard worked really hard at practice. When I was coaching my son's Mite hockey team he came out to a practice and skated with the kids. We would play soccer on the ice with a soccer ball at the end of most practices and Izak was blowing me away with how well he could skate while dribbling the soccer ball. I thought he would be like Ryan Gibbons but never saw that in games.
It's time to get your head out of the sand and fire the coach. You keep telling why to keep him and they justkeep loseing and the team won't play hard for him. It's not the frist time it's been going on for yearsw now. The fan won't come back until the they win and that won't happen with the coach they have. Time for the GM to walk up his experiment for the last 5 year has not work and won't work go get a hockey guy.
Whose head is in the sand? They've been losing for years? They haven't had a losing record in the past six seasons. Grind your axe on some other stone.
It's not coaching...just plain and simple this team is short on offensive firepower. We know it and our opponents know it. Btw...for those that have never laced up the skates and played- it is very hard to play constantly good "d" when the puck is constantly in your zone. I don't care how good you are.
I would expect as the season goes on that this offense will get shored up.
if you think it's not coaching then your head is in the sand just because you have a winning record doesn't make you a good team what was the potential of the teams the past six seasons at one point they had 5 NHL first round picks on the team and could get out of the second round of the play-offs. For the math genius out there that is a quarter of the team. (WOW) (look at the talent then look at the wins) compare the personnel on Tri-Cities to Seattle the last 6 years then tell me they not squandered there opportunities. As for the people who want to say it’s the players then your telling me you know more than 5 NHL GM’s who picked these kids. Yea Right
Look at Alan Caldwell's blog about how teams have drafted the past few years. We have had some bad drafts I think it's time to address that need before anything.... We do get solid players in here like Hickey but a lot of our players don't come back... Last year Greg Scott was a solid 20 year old... But we can never piece together a season or 2 where we have solid 20 year olds... With a good base of 19 and 18 year olds..... As far as Quakenbush he did score but it was a rebound on an open net, didn't do much else, the guys in the locker room all disliked him anyways never would have worked.
So are you calling for a new GM?
Speaking of Alan Cardwell's blog here is quoute. Also another good draft for Seattle, with five 200+ game players out of 10 picks. (With two very good back-to-back drafts in 2001 and 2002, don't you wonder why Seattle didn't have more on-ice success in 2003 - 2007
So is it the coach or the GM?
Well let's define success here. If you throw out 03-04 (which is just for the sake of argument) the team averaged 86 points per season and won a division title. Now obviously the one thing people have been frustrated about is the lack of playoff success.
Rather than just be frustrated and make a blanket statement lets actually take a look at it.
In 04-05 they won the US Division, beat the Carey Price led Americans 4-1 in the first round and then lost 4-2 in the second round to a Kelowna team that earned 104 points and won the WHL Championship.
05-06 they finish 2nd in the US and blow a 3 goal lead on home ice in game 7 of the first round to Portland. No excuses here, this is a disappointment but they earned 75 point to Portland's 72 so it was a closely matched series. Portland then gets rolled 4-1 by Vancouver and likely Seattle would have done the same thing.
06-07 they earn 88 points which would have won the division the season before but finish 3rd in the US and knock off the 96 point Americans in the 1st round 4 games to 2. If you want to call last season a disappointment... this series is an upset. They then get waxed by Vancouver 4-1 and the Giants go on to lose the WHL Championship but win the Memorial Cup, hardly a bad team to lose to.
07-08 they earn 91 points but finish 3rd in the division again and defeat the 84 point Rockets in the 1st round before losing to the 108 point Americans team that won the US Division.
So I know I have said this before... but I'll say it again. Are we only defining success by winning the WHL or winning the Western Conference? I suppose you do... but do we define failure as any team that doesn't do that? By that logic, 20 teams a year should be firing their GM and Coach.
"Speaking of Alan Cardwell's blog here is quoute. Also another good draft for Seattle, with five 200+ game players out of 10 picks. (With two very good back-to-back drafts in 2001 and 2002, don't you wonder why Seattle didn't have more on-ice success in 2003 - 2007"
The irony of this is that most these players had their success and games played once they left Seattle. Bader, Durand, Simpson... and the ones that stayed were nice, they just weren't that good and put in a lot of games (exception for Gagnon noted as he was very nice).
There not a single coach left in the us division since Seattle's coach was hired. Shall we take a look around the league and see how many coach are with the same team since his hiring? can you count them on less then one hand? is Seattle of the same caliber?
You seem to insinuate that every one of those coaches has been fired and of course that is simply not the case. Some coaches move on to promotions and some are fired. So that is a pretty large generalization that doesn't really help your case.
So let's take a look at this listJohn Becanic, Everett Silvertips (41) — May 31, 2007, to present.
Bruno Campese, Prince Albert Raiders (44 ) — June 21, 2007, to present.
Dean Chynoweth, Swift Current Broncos (38) — June 16, 2004, to present.
Dean Clark, Kamloops Blazers (43) — May 16, 2003, to Nov. 12, 2004; Dec. 8, 2005, to present.
Willie Desjardins, Medicine Hat Tigers (50) — July 22, 2002, to present.
Michael Dyck, Lethbridge Hurricanes (39) — Nov. 8, 2005, to present.
Don Hay, Vancouver Giants (53) — May 3, 2004, to present.
Jim Hiller, Chilliwack Bruins (38) — May 30, 2006, to present.
Mark Holick, Kootenay Ice (39) — Aug. 7, 2007, to present.
Dave Hunchak, Moose Jaw Warriors (33) — June 14, 2007, to present.
Curtis Hunt, Regina Pats (40): May 26, 2004, to present.
Ryan Huska, Kelowna Rockets (32) — July 25, 2007, to present.
Kelly Kisio, Calgary Hitmen (48) — May 18, 2004, to present.
Richard Kromm, Portland Winter Hawks (43) — Aug. 8, 2007, to present
Kelly McCrimmon, Brandon Wheat Kings (46) — Dec. 17, 1989 to Nov. 11, 1992; March 2, 2004, to present.
Lorne Molleken, Saskatoon Blades (51) — May 21, 2004, to present.
Don Nachbaur, Tri-City Americans (48) — June 16, 2003, to present.
Bill Peters, Spokane Chiefs (42) — June 22, 2005, to present.
Steve Pleau, Edmonton Oil Kings (34) — June 21, 2007, to present.
Drew Schoneck, Prince George Cougars (33) — June 18, 2007, to present.
Rob Sumner, Seattle Thunderbirds (36) — May 6, 2004, to present.
Brian Sutter, Red Deer Rebels (50) — July 12, 2007, to present.
NOTE: Chynoweth, Clark, Desjardins, Kisio, McCrimmon and Molleken double as general managers.
Becanic was fired, Kromm was replaced when new ownership came in Portland, Nachbauer left Tri for a job in the AHL as did Peters.
Five #1 NHL picks ont he T-birds team at the same time? I know a few years back they had three but I don't recall 5. How many of those are currently in the NHL?
And yes, NHL GMs can make mistakes with #1 picks. Hockey is littered with #1s who never made it to the NHL.
Tyler, I'm from New York so you know how I feel.. you either win it all or the season is a failure ( as Jeter himself admits) and you fire everyone!!!
LOL just kidding ( sort of )
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